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The Questions:
On
a scale of (0) most disagreement , to (5) neutral, to (10) most
agreement, what is your view on the following:
1. _5.6
average response_____
A new state-level council on Minnesota strategy, broadly
representative of citizens statewide, should be established by law to
develop actionable strategies for a healthy Minnesota.
2. _7.6
average response_____
Working together, counties, cities and townships should be charged
with redesigning services where economies of scale and reduction in
duplication would save money and improve quality.
3. _6.3
average response_____ Future
local government aid should be based on how effectively and
efficiently services are being delivered.
Keith Swenson
It's
just the same arrogance from State Government that can't get its house
in order trying to bully smaller units of government.
Dave Broden (10) (10)
(10)
Question 1:
This is as you all know
one of the points that I have been pushing for some time. The
membership structure however must be built around citizens not elected
officials who already have a forum. There needs to be some real hard
and thoughtful vision to how the members are selected, how state
geographic and demographic mixes are included and how small towns and
rural areas are properly represented without the urban members
thinking that this is another urban opportunity for power--this must
be a total Minnesota effort. The council must not be a 1-3 year action
but a long term plan with rotating memberships always bringing in new
ideas etc.
Question 2:
The linkage of various
levels of government must be a focus without impacting the sense of
local community which remains a key desire of the citizens across the
state. This can be done by good leadership and communication. The
scope must also include rethinking of the various special governmental
units like water districts, conservation districts etc--each of these
adds more complexity and costs.
Question 3:
Definitely must be
outcome related. Perhaps some balance may be needed in a few areas
where
outcomes may be difficult to define or those involved may not have the
resources to address. Also as we move to outcomes as a criteria we
must not let that result in an increase in state workers to administer
the program.
Carol Becker (0) (0)
(0)
Anyone who thinks
that this isn't already going on isn't talking to the cities and
counties. There is already a large amount of sharing of services
where it makes sense. And this all presupposes that a large
bureaucracy is more efficient than several small bureaucracies, which
simply isn't true. It always amazes me that we think that large
monopolies are bad in the private sector but good in the public
sector. I also think that basing LGA on effective and efficient
services presupposes that LGA is going to continue, when one of the
easiest political moves in a budget crisis is to dump the problems on
lower level government. Also, there are a lot of devils in the
details of "effective and efficient." Government services by their
very nature are very difficult to measure the effectiveness of. What
is "effective and efficient" policing? Or "effective and efficient"
parks? And although I think bringing back the Planning Department at
the State is a good idea, I think the Legislature should be answering
the question of the state-wide plan, as they are a board of citizens.
It has always been a weakness in the legislative processes that we
don't have a strategic planning process.
Terry Overlander (10)
(10) (10)
I am just sick and
tired of the partisan politics
Dane Smith (10) (10)
(7)
#3
might have the effect of punishing the neediest of our communities for
the sins of the city fathers. Rep. Marquart’s initiative on this
front and efforts by other legislators are highly commendable.
Tom Neuville (5) (7))
(2)
Commissions are just
a way to provide "cover" for legislators. A better approach is to have
a select bi-partisan (equal membership) of legislators, who listen to
ideas and have a round table analysis of how to reform our tax
system.
John Hoscheid (10)
(10) (10)
It
is time to change the way we deliver services.
Ed Dirkswager (0)
(10) (5)
Effectiveness is as
important as efficiency. Each has to be measured. In my opinion no
state-level council will be effective. In the end change requires
elected officials to become well informed, be aware of the best
information and analyses and to work together to address issues.
Bob and Karen Fox (1)
(10) (5)
This redesign needs to cross county lines, rivers and any other
artificial barriers that are present.
Clarence Shallbetter
(6) (9) (8)
LaMont Jacobson (2)
(10) (10)
Pat Lowther (9) (10)
(6)
Enforcing # 3 could return politics to the process.
Phil Herwig (3) (6)
(1)
Sounds like another
layer of government being promoted. Government needs to be downsized,
programs need to be dismantled, and government employees need to be
let go. By continuing with what we have in state government we are
continuing to support a 21st century dinosaur. State government is out
of touch and out of step with the times. This includes the
"conservative" Republican governor and Democratic House and Senate.
These people have caused the mess we are in, and now Marquart wants to
tie us up in more knots than we already are in? Marquart and others
are part of the real problem we face. They, by their actions and
position, are creating, inch by inch a society and government that is
becoming so convoluted and cumbersome that its ultimate end will be
that neither will be able to function. They always say their plans
will be cost effective and a benefit to all. The problem is that what
they say and what they do never are the same. Their cost effectiveness
winds up spending more money, causing more regulations, and raising
everyone's taxes! This drives more jobs from the state, which results
in more "plans", more regulations, and raise more taxes! Does anyone
see a pattern here?
Dick McGuire (10)
(10) (8)
The
governor should not chair this committee; that position, as we are
seeing, can become so political as to be almost ineffective at the
state level.
Wayne Jennings (10)
(10) (10)
Arvonne Fraser (7)
(8) (8)
This will not be as
easy as it sounds given the size and diversity of this state but
rethinking things is always useful. Beware, however, of unintended
consequences and get people--including the likes of Roger Moe and
Martin Sabo one of whom lives in a far corner of this state and the
other in Minneapolis who know government at all levels and now have
time and nothing to lose--and, of course, as Abigail Adams said,
"don't forget the ladies."
Bert Press (5) (10)
(10)
Roger Heegaard (8)
(8) (10)
Tim Utz (0) (5) (0)
No
layoff, on ideological expectation, why bother even setting up a
commission to review state government? We have a an existing state
wide strategic plan for Minnesota. We call it the constitution, and
our elected officials need to grow a spine and conform government to
that supreme strategic law. We need not another hand picked group of
folks ignoring the 40 ton elephant in the living room,
unconstitutional state government. This proposed commission is another
reason folks like me around the state have stepped forward and are
running for state office in 2010.
Chris Stedman (7)
(10) (10)
George Crolick (6)
(10) (4)
Council is a good
idea- but worry that members might be too political. Members from
city and county government or why not ourpolitical scientists play a
role?
Good to see that
people are talking about redesign opportunities and good for civic
caucus to keep the subject on the table ! Maybe it is OK to get
started without having all the answers.
Tim Houle
Thanks for the e-mail update on Rep. Marquardt's MN House Redesign
Committee. This is welcome news, indeed, and I am glad to see at
least some legislators recognizing the leadership of both the Civic
Caucus and the Association of MN Counties in leading this discussion.
I did note that Rep. Marquardt mentioned neither of us in his press
conference.
This is a good start, but let's recognize this for what it is: at
this point, it's just a political platitude until you are actually
prepared to exhibit courageous leadership to try to implement some
bold ideas on how to fix the state's budget problems. In my humble
opinion, as long as legislators see this as a math problem, nothing
will change and they will continue to muddle through. They don't have
a math problem; they have a service delivery problem and an inability
to set priorities about what is most important to the residents of the
State of Minnesota. When Sen. Pogemiller suggests an across-the-board
budget cut, it is inherently based on the premise that all things we
do are equally important. Make no mistake that everything we do is
important to someone, but not everything we do is equally important.
I hate to use a time-worn analogy, but government will talk about its
programs in isolation as if the program competes with no one for the
limited available resources; when we go home at night, we would never
contemplate spending money to fix the roof without taking into
consideration all the other demands on your limited personal
resources. Without prioritizing, with only an axe in your toolbox, is
it really any surprise that all you can do is chop? And, more
importantly, when we cut everything equally, we do nothing to advance
driving out inefficiencies. Each inefficiency is a precious resource
we are flushing down the toilet that impairs our ability to deliver
the services the residents of the State of Minnesota most need from
us, like public safety, a social safety net, snow-plowing, etc. When
you treat this like a math problem, you just move numbers; only when
you seize the opportunity to truly prioritize and streamline can you
truly change the system.
In Crow Wing County, we talk not just about cheaper, we also demand
better. We have re-organized most of our work units such that they
are now organized around the customers that tend to move across our
departmental lines. For instance, we have created a Land Services
Dept that contains the County Assessor, Planning & Zoning, Natural
Resource Management, Solid Waste, and Surveyors functions. This gives
us a better opportunity than in the past to capture organizational
synergies that makes us more efficient. As an example, we now have
our Assessor's staff verifying our Planning & Zoning permitees built
only that which they were supposed to when the appraiser visits the
site to assess the new structure for tax purposes. Before, someone
from P&Z was doing that as well as the Assessor's staff going, too.
Not just cheaper, but better! I have many more examples of how we
are driving "radical efficiencies" (Google the term and you'll
understand better what I mean) as our strategy to make our operation
as efficient as it can be. We have used a priority-setting process to
prioritize every single "book" of county business so we know what's
most important to us. We are embarking on a Managing for Results
approach to measure and demonstrate the value (or lack thereof) that
we supply to the community with our various programs and services.
You can't sell a vision of a better future that involves only
cut-cut-cut. You can sell a vision of the future that is not just
cheaper, but better! I'm glad the Legislature has taken a small
symbolic first step. The Governor did likewise in last year's State
of the State address by specifically referring to AMC's Redesign
effort as a model for the future, but nothing ever came of that. To
be clear, I don't view this as a problem with every legislator--I
think our legislators get what we are trying to do and see the wisdom
of it; I view it is a failure in leadership from both the Governor and
legislative leadership. The proof will ultimately be in the pudding
and, forgive my cynicism, but I still doubt the organizational and
leadership capacity of the leaders in both parties to do what really
needs to be done. Given that belief, I continue to advise that
distancing ourselves from a partner that is financially unstable and
that does not apply sound financial practices to its budget (not
counting inflation, no rainy day funds??!!) is in Crow Wing County's
best interests at this time. That advice won't change until we see
something more than just words.
Scott Halstead (8)
(10) (10)
State level council
should include members from various non-partisan organizations such as
the Citizens League, Civic Caucus etc. There should be a report of
actions considered, enacted, rejected with a scorecard and legislative
action and voter record.
Shari Prest (2) (5)
(5)
I would begin by
encouraging government leaders to take a "non-partisan pledge"
committing that they will act first in the interest of the people
(all the people) government serves. (Evidence would be the varied
positions (not postures) on votes and initiatives. The plans listed
above assume that Competition is always good. In fact it is very
costly. Also Rep. Maquart contradicts himself when he says on the one
hand that individuals are not the problem but rather that the problem
is in the systems...he then proposes a carrot/stick approach to
rewarding/punishing individuals (i.e. merit pay.) What happened to
inspiration, the greater good, leadership, and shared goals, values,
and dreams. Even though heated and even deadly debates took place
among our founding fathers, they were eventually able to create "One
Nation..." Our current leaders held government and innovation hostage
to personal ambition and party politics for far too long. We should
never again elect any politician that is accountable to "the party"
first.
The sources for Rep.
Maquart's "learning" presupposes a conservative, privatization bias as
do a couple of the questions from Civic Caucus members.
Fred Senn (10) (10)
(10)
These discussions
about the redesign of government services are very important. We need
a way to institutionalize innovation and celebrate improvements.
Debbie Frenzel (10)
(10) (10)
Peter Hennessey (0)
(5) (0)
In
the general scheme envisioned by the Founders of our Republic, this
session is in line with the great laboratory of governance that is
possible precisely and only because we are a Union of independent
sovereign States, and can try many good or foolish ideas that other
States can copy, modify or ignore.
My
own impression is that the set of proposals offered by this speaker
falls in the foolish category. My preference would be to see the
design in our great Constitution being carried through at all levels
of government; that is, to push the actual governance down to the
local level as far as possible, as close as possible to the actual
people being governed. This set of proposals goes in the opposite
direction.
Question 1: We already have a state-level council broadly
representative of the people; it is called the legislature. I assume
MN has one? Or did MN go the way of CA, and finds its legislature and
its bureaucracy being increasingly dysfunctional, the budget locked in
with extravagant fixed and mandated appropriations, and the State
robbing the treasuries of all lower levels of government in the State?
Question 2: Let's make that zero if the proposal is to create
regional super-agencies that ride roughshod over local concerns, by
creating regional monopolies in the delivery of services, for
example. Let's make that ten if the proposal is to first discover if
there are any services at all, such that (1) their delivery is the
proper function of government, and (2) if it is appropriate to allow a
monopoly to deliver these services rather than assign it through
competitive bidding.
But
when a formerly great State such as CA and its girly-man governator
formerly pretending to be a Republican such as SchwartzenShriver are
proposing to privatize jails, my guess is that there are very few
"services" that any level of government should be monopolizing beyond
police, courts and civil defense.
Question 3: What is local government aid? Is it *funded* mandates as
opposed to unfunded mandates? Why else would the State government need
to provide aid to lower levels of government? And how do you define
effectiveness and efficiency?
Is
it effective and efficient if police vans and ambulances cruise the
city on winter nights to pick up drunks and the homeless and transport
them to a shelter, even against their will? Or is it a failure if they
only get half of them, or if they pick up the same people every night,
or if they pick up only the dead ones?
Is
it effective and efficient if the welfare office has a growing list of
applicants, or it is a failure if surveys show they still manage to
miss half of the eligible people, or they issue checks to the same
people month after month?
I
think history and everyday experience have consistently shown that
effectiveness and efficiency can only come from competition; the
entity offering the service must be on their toes to control their
costs or risk being undercut by someone more nimble and smart. The
statists grouse about profits in private enterprise, and say that if
only government ran it (whatever "it" is; health insurance, maybe?)
then the cost would be reduced by the amount of profit the privateers
are pocketing now. The free enterprisers point to the shamelessly
padded operating costs and work rules in the government bureaucracy
that make it cost far more than private enterprise with all their
profits.
A
good example is the history of the health insurance premiums, at least
in CA which I know from a lifetime of personal experience. In 1972,
Blue Cross was advertising that 97 cents of every dollar of premiums
paid went to health care providers; claims processing costs and those
evil profits was only 3 cents, far below the costs and profits of any
other form of enterprise. As the years rolled by, this number went
down and down, eventually to 84 cents that last time I saw it in print
maybe 5-15 years ago. Just last week I heard on the news, in reaction
to the Blue Cross demand for a 39% increase in premiums, that
regulators and legislators are willing to approve the increase but
only after they also pass a law to mandate a minimum of 70 cents paid
to providers. Imagine that! We went from 97 cents to 70 cents, all
during the same years when the do-gooders ran wild with their good
intentions. Only government and oppressive regulation can achieve a
spectacular failure such as this.
It
would be nice if people remembered that whatever the operation, it
can't survive if its income is less than its expenses, and that its
income is always ultimately set by the level of support from its
customer base, whether the operation is public or private. The drive
for a monopoly, whether in government or in private enterprise, is the
desire to be free for this kind of approval from the customer base,
that is, control by it. Freedom from competition is no less unhealthy
in government than in private enterprise. The risk of failure and
ceasing to exist is a very good reason to stay honest, and should be
applied especially to government bureaucracies, rather than
automatically increasing their budgets every year. There is no such
thing as a natural monopoly -- not in utilities, not in services, and
not in government. Everything cannot be and must not be turned into a
regulated utility; all that does is make stagnation permanent.
Charles Lutz (10) (9)
(9)
Vici Oshiro (10) (10)
(10)
10 if it is done
right and I'm not sure I or others know how to do it right.
Michael Martens
1.
Tthere is lots of talk about reinventing local government/ improving
service delivery. When real change is proposed the entrenched
bureaucracy will oppose it. Because of opposition from entrenched
parties, the legislature will talk but not do anything meaningful.
Unless there is massive support by the general public, nothing will
happen.
For example it took 10 years of lobbying & working by many many
business groups to reduce the property tax levy on commercial
property form 5 times homestead property to 3 times homestead property
rate. Commercial property taxes in MN are still 2 to 5 times higher
than neighboring state and other high tech states.
2. There are many groups that already exist that a have looked at this
issue, there is no need to form a new group. Just review the work
that has already been done, the pick the things that have the most
public support.
3. Laying off people has to be part of the solution from the
beginning because a major cost of state & local government is employee
salaries & benefits. This requires overcoming the opposition of public
employee and teacher unions. Since no or few DFL legislators are will
to oppose public employee unions., this severely limits the cost
saving that can be realized
4. CSDD and CSDA sound like another layer of government with its own
set of employees, which will increase not decrease costs.
5. I believe that the LGA system is broken beyond repair. Go the
State website and randomly pick at least 5 small and 5 large cities.
Ask State Rep. Paul Marquart to explain the reason for the
differences. Some cities get zero other get almost $400/capita. Why
the difference? A study showed that cities that get LGA spend
$100/month per employee more on employee benefits than cities that
don't get LGA. So LGA isn't being spent on roads etc.
Mina Harrigan (7)
(10) (8)
Don Anderson (8) (8)
(10)
This is the right
idea, however, are we to polarized, i.e., right or left to accomplish
what is proposed? The Governor is running for another office, and some
of the legislative leaders are running for his position.
Robert J. Brown (5)
(_) (10)
Question 1: This might be a good idea, but it could also add another
layer on our already overly complex system of government. And it might
go even further to relieving the legislator and the governor from
facing up to their responsibilities of their elected offices.
Question 2: While reduction in duplication is a worthwhile goals one
must be wary of the so-called economies of scale. If we learned
anything from the consolidation of school districts it is that the
larger entities always had higher costs than the ones they replaced.
While they may have improved some services the cost in the alienation
of constituents may have been greater than the benefits received.
Bob White (10) (10)
(10)
John Nowicki (0) (0)
(0)
Question 1: This is why we have a legislature
Question 2: Who is doing the charging and under what authority?
Question 3: Who determines this and what is the criteria?
Northstar will not work until we have a new governor and less bias
leaders in the legislature.
Kevin Edberg (5) (8) (5)
Regarding Q3, I'm not
sure that central dictation of "effectiveness" and "efficiency" is
efficacious. Wrath or favor of local voters is usually more direct,
though this admittedly also fraught with issues of interpretation.
It was noted that the
costs of "people" in service delivery is rising faster than rates of
revenue increase. That's true. Incompletely addressed in the
discussion was the issue that certain kinds of services, because they
deal with human beings, inherently require human delivery for effect,
and that some of the most expensive are driven by demographics.
(Picture deliver of certain aspects of health care for senior
citizens, or the engagement of young human minds aka education).
Greater clarity would be welcome: which services are particularly
demographically driven, and of these, which are amenable to
significant increases in efficiency (i.e. can accommodate increased
customer load without commensurate increases in provider count), and
which ones are not necessarily so easy to control (at least so long as
we choose to provide the service/tolerate the impact of not addressing
the particular issue). Teasing out these kinds of distinctions are
necessary for considerations of alternatives.
Also inherent in the
entire conversation (all of the work of Civic Caucus) is the question
of what benefits might citizens reasonably expect equitable access to
because they are citizens of the State as opposed to citizens of a
particular community or region of the State? The rural/metro (or
rural/urban/suburban) distinctions keep raising their heads throughout
the conversation. I personally believe it important for individuals to
ask "Are we one State? Or an amalgamation of units? It seems to me
this is as much an issue of vision as one of efficient service
delivery.
Worthy conversations.
I'm glad someone is having them.
Ken Smart (8) (7)
(10)
Carolyn Ring (4) (8)
(7)
Question 1: I am
hesitant to pass a law for this, as once a law is passed it is
difficult to change it or abolish it. I would rather see it done by
resolution or Governor's initiative.
Question 3: How will
the guidelines for effectiveness be established and who will make the
decisions?
Al Quie (8) (0) (0)
Rep. Marquart has
some good ideas but, in my opinion, there are some flaws. 1)
strategies, economies of scale, reduction in duplication, saving
money, effectiveness and efficiency of services delivery are all
activities problems. First attention should be given to the outcomes
of people being served. The conflicts come in the resources (money and
employees) and activities areas. Already "no layoffs" is a given. (a
gift to the public employees union.) 2) Most people do not think in
service lines concepts but in political subdivisions lines. As long as
a political subdivision has a building, people think geographically
and protectively. 3) First act of the bipartisan group of legislators
who held the press conference is to agree on an answer to the
question, "Why did 'an agenda for reform' fail?" When I speak
of outcomes, it is as basic as this: How well are the citizens served
by our transportation system? How well are we educating our children?
How healthy are our people? How well are we protecting our
environment? Are our people receiving justice in our judicial system?
Redesign of activities to affect "resources" is not a good enough
motivation.
What would I
recommend? Appoint two Senators and two Representatives from each
party and one person appointed by the Governor and do what Civic
Caucus is doing. You can't take any action in state government, but
such a group could.
Terry Stone (8) (8)
(8)
Unfortunately, Rep. Marquart’s thinking seems to leave a large
intrusive role for the state to continue social planning
initiatives. Using LGA to keep small towns on life support seems more
romanticized culture than solid governance policy. Many small towns
are artifacts of long gone economic systems and transportation
systems.
Bob Fenwick (0) (2)
(0)
Question 1: Citizens are already “broadly represented” . They are
called city councilors and county commissioners.
Question 2: They have been doing this for years for the right
reasons to the benefit of their own citizens and the state as a whole.
Economies of scale is a fine catch phrase for Burger King, McDonalds,
Sears, etc, but we have none of those in Cook County.
Question 3: Can you say, “more unfunded mandates”? Can you say, “one
size fits all”? How about this; let’s apply this scenario to the
relationship of states and the federal government. That is where we
are headed with this strategy.
Dick Angevine (3) (8)
(8)
Connie Morrison (8)
(8) (8)
Some of the
suggestions sound like an enlarged fiscal disparities law. Not easy
for the more efficient communities to swallow. I wish them luck with
the bipartisanship. Wouldn't it be nice?
I
have high regard for all those involved in the proposal. I would love
it if various governments realized it's time to work together.
Unfortunately, the Legislature likes to tell local governments what to
do, and school districts are often given short shrift. Nevertheless
I'm quite leery of suggestions that increase fiscal disparities. I'm
so glad you and your team continue to work on all of this. No wonder
Minnesota is head and shoulders ahead of so many other states.
George Pillsbury (5)
(10) (10)
The best redesign
would be a unicameral Legislature.
Shari Prest (2) (5)
(5)
Question 1:
This is no way
guarantees bi-partisan action. We have representative bodies...why add
another layer. They simply do not act in a bipartisan fashion. I fail
to see the purpose of this layer.
Question 2: Theoretically
this is sound, I am much more skeptical about application. They could
do it now but rarely do.
Question 3:
If someone can come
up with a measurement scale that assures improvement and not
efficiency at the expense of quality...great.
4. Comments: I
would begin by encouraging government leaders to take a "non-partisan
pledge" committing that they will act first in the interest of the
people (all the people) government serves. (Evidence would be the
varied positions (not postures) on votes and initiatives. The plans
listed above assume that Competition is always good. In fact it
is very costly. Also Rep. Maquart contradicts himself when he says on
the one hand that individuals are not the problem but rather that the
problem is in the systems...he then proposes a carrot/stick approach
to rewarding/punishing individuals (i.e. merit pay.) What happened to
inspiration, the greater good, leadership, and shared goals, values,
and dreams. Even though heated and even deadly debates took place
among our founding fathers, they were eventually able to create "One
Nation..." Our current leaders held government and innovation hostage
to personal ambition and party politics for far too long. We should
never again elect any politician that is accountable to "the party"
first.
The sources for Rep.
Maquart's "learning" presupposes a conservative, privatization bias as
do a couple of the questions from Civic Caucus members.
Bill Hamm (6) (3) (3)
Question 1: The devil is in the detail here. Who gets to define
"broadly", and how does it get defined. Who gets to choose my
representation on this new council? What I see is another
desperate and despicable move toward centralization of control spelled
"Socialism".
Question 2: This effort toward efficiency has been underway for more
than two decades at the local level. Where have you been? The wording
of this statement is just another thinly disguised attempt to again
attack local government entities and support for their elimination--an
attack on local representation I will not support.
Question 3: Again who judges who is meeting the guidelines? Indeed
who is writing the guidelines? It is time to disconnect this hog
trough. Why should we agree to allow the State to take our tax money,
steal as much as they want, then give us back LGA?. How about a novel
new Idea, Don't take it in the first place, let our local governments
take responsibility and make their own bed rather than making beggars
of our Mayors.
Only by pushing responsibility back down to the local level do we
began to end this reliance on Big Government to do everything for us.
Only then will we the people ever have any real voice in our destiny
or control of our potential instead of having our potential always
manipulated from above by our richest and most elite neighbors.
Ralph Brauer (0) (5)
(2)
Question 1: This will just be a political body of the same old
players who have made
a mess of things so far along with ideological no-compromise types who
have made change all but impossible.
Question 2: The operative words here are "charged with." What does
that mean? How
can it be accomplished in a way that allows for creativity and
flexibility? Where are the WIFMs (What's In It For Me) in this
proposal?
Question 3: This sounds grand, but the devil is in the details: What
does effective and efficient mean? Most LGAs would tell you they are
already effective and efficient. What metrics will be used to measure
these changes? Who will oversee this? What carrots and sticks will be
used to insure it works?
Question 4: I feel like a tired arm beating a dead horse, but you
cannot accomplish any of this without rigorous system dynamics
modeling. Only the modeling process can bring people together of
disparate views. Only the modeling process can accommodate different
mental models (my colleague Peter Senge would be a abashed there has
been no discussion of mental models in this redesign process). Only
the modeling process can provide a mathematical, verifiable way to
assess alternatives. That you have been unwilling to consider this is
to me an appalling indication of intellectual provincialism. SD is not
some kooky, off-the-wall idea, it
is used by most major corporations as some part of their planning
process. The two modelers I work with are under contract to the
federal government to model counter-terrorism plans (i.e. you have to
model the potential consequences of an action like dropping botulism
in the water
supply). The plans and methods proposed so far could have come from a
group in 1895.
Jan Hively (5) (5)
(3)
Question 1:
I am in favor of what
Marquart wants, a council comprising elected policy leaders and a few
citizen reps from business, education, youth, (rating of 9) I am not
in favor of what this question sounds like -- a large citizens
council (rating of 4).
Question 2: I don't
trust the state running local government, which is what this sounds
like ("charge with" -- which implies that the state will hold the
local governments responsible... setting out criteria, enforcement
code, etc.). I am in favor of offering incentives for local
government to achieve economies of scale and reduction of duplication
that would save money.
Question 3:
Local government aid
should not be dependent on state judgments about how "effectively and
efficiently" they are delivering their services. That opens the door
to arbitrary and political pressure. Local governments should receive
basic aid based on net worth and population. Beyond the basic, the
aid should be dependent on meeting criteria for "effective and
efficient" management and service delivery.
David Gay (0) (4) (0)
Phase out LGA and
reduce State tax rates. Let local governments do their job and quit
hiding the true cost of local government by subsidizing irresponsible
behavior with free money from the state.
Jim Keller (0) (8)
(5)
We all ready have
numerous elected people who tell us they have the answers. If we could
stimulate cooperation, I believe our local governments would be a
great source for finding efficiencies.
Tom Swain (10) (10)
(10)
Sounds great.
Larry Schluter (8)
(10) (9)
It looks like a lot
of good ideas to improve services and make better use out of LGA's
which are questionable use of state money.
Lyall Schwarzkopf
((5) (9) (6)
We need to change the
boundaries of local governments. This does not do that. Using LGA to
encourage changing the boundaries of government is a good idea._
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