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The Questions:
1. _9.0 average_____On a scale of (0)
most disagreement, to (5) neutral, to (10) most agreement, what is
your view on whether a healthy Minnesota future will require more
cooperation among organizations in the private sector as well as the
public sector?
2. _6.8 average____On a scale of (0) most
disagreement, to (5) neutral, to (10) most agreement, what is your
view on whether candidates for Governor should be evaluated more on
their ability to broker others' ideas than their ability to generate
ideas themselves?
3. Any matters missing in this summary that you wish would have been
addressed?
(see comments below)
Joe Mansky (10) (5)
Rick Bishop (10) (7)
Robert J. Brown (10) (8)
Question 1: This cooperation must start with working on the political
process so we have candidates for public office who represent
something other than the political extremes that dominate today.
Question 2: I would hate to see a governor who had no ideas of his or
her own, but the reality has always been that very few good political
ideas originate with elected officials. For example, I used to ask my
students whose idea was it to have a Peace Corps. They would
invariably say President Kennedy, but then I would point out that he
got the idea from Humphrey who got the idea from one of Richard
Wilson’s columns in the Minneapolis paper.
Good leaders have some ideas of their own and even when they get ideas
from others they learn to modify and shape those ideas to meet the
needs of the day and to deal with political reality.
Wayne Jennings (10) (8)
Question 3: For 50 years, I’ve wanted universal health care as a
matter of right and have seen almost all nations attain it. What’s the
real problem for America? Is it even rational to be opposed and to
obfuscate by quibbling on details and using terms like “socialized
medicine”? How would our quests have addressed those questions?
Bert Press (10) (0)
Dave Pierson (4) (4)
Vici Oshiro (10) (both/and)
Question 3: Focus on candidates useful, but a small part of the
problem. A candidate too far in the lead will not get elected even if
endorsed. I hope Dick Pettingill drums up the patience to go to his
caucus even if it is disorderly. The issues raised are important ones,
but someone(s) need to find a way to articulate solutions and sell
them to the voters. And it cannot sound like a longing for the good
old days, but a way to create a positive future.
Donald H. Anderson (10) (7)
Shari Prest (10) (8)
Eric Schubert (10) (10)
Question 2: No one person can come up with everything. Minnesota would
benefit from a leader who is a selfless convener, collaborator and
catalyst for innovation and results.
Ellen Benavides (10) (8)
Please include the nonprofit or third sector in your thinking/future
discussions. This was a fascinating conversation to "listen in" on.
Rick Krueger (10) (10)
Interestingly, I believe the political process rewards (and mostly
gives recognition to) those least likely to listen to divergent
opinions and unable to build a consensus. For example, when the state
shut down about four years ago, almost no attention went to Senator
Dallas Sams (DFL) and Dennis Ozment (Rep.) who were able to reach a
consensus for their finance division and averted a shut-down in the
agencies that they shared lead responsibility.
Another sterling example of bipartisanship was the leadership in the
Senate when Duane Benson (Rep.) and Roger Moe (DFL ) headed their
respective caucuses. I have never witnessed before or after a minority
leader (in this case Duane) who became an integral part of major
policy. In fact the entire Minnesota Care Initiative was lead in a
mostly bipartisan fashion which included Governor Carlson (the glaring
exception was the House Republicans).
The challenge is how to get the recognition focused on this type of
true leadership, versus the 'hand grenade lobbers' in the process.
Paul Hauge (10) (11)
Al Quie (10) (0)
Jeanne Massey
I’ve been loosely following the conversations about the 2010
governor’s race. I don’t see that RCV/election reform is yet a major
part of the conversation, but am hoping it can become one in your
interviews regarding the race moving forward. It was a lost
opportunity not to seek in depth Dave Durenberger’s views on this
issue. He is very eloquent on the topic.
We see the 2010 race as a pivotal opportunity to advance the case for
ranked choice voting.
See op-ed I wrote for MPR. FairVote MN plans to make RCV an issue in
this election, including the use of RCV straw polls (see DFL straw
poll event Sept 15th) and, hopefully, ranked polling, among several
other strategies (including, we hope, the civic caucus). Ellen just
emailed the PiPress about doing ranked polling. I know this is an
issue of interest to you and the 2010 race is another opportunity to
make the case for doing ranked polling and to move this possibility
forward.
Fairvote is seeking the formal support of all candidates running for
governor. Most on the DFL slate are supporters (http://www.fairvotemn.org/main/endorsers)
and we hope to seek the support from some of the Republican candidates
as well, now that it is in open race in the Republican party.
MPR piece: http://www.fairvotemn.org/node/1314
DFL straw poll: http://www.fairvotemn.org/node/1356
Larry Schluter (10) (9)
Very interesting discussion. We need leadership more than ever.
David Mooty (10) (8)
Carolyn Ring (10) (10)
Leadership is the "key." Good ideas may come from a variety of
sources, and, hopefully, the Governor-elect will surround himself with
the most innovative people. Then, the Gov. with leadership qualities,
can take the ideas to the legislature and electorate for successful
adoption. We must get more younger people interested in good
government. Also, new leaders in business and industry too often are
not from this area and do not have the interest of the Daytons.,
Pillsbury,s. Bingers, etc. Just look at the companies that no longer
have their headquarters and native leadership here. Exp. Honeywell,
Dain (Canada), Piper, ( Switzerland) and on and on.
David Detert (10) (4)
Ray Cox (10) (5)
I think it is essential that a Governor provide leadership and have
sound, clear ideas and goals to put forward. However, it is just as
important for a Governor to be able to work with others and broker
'deals' that work for Minnesota. One should never forget President
Reagan's comment, when asked about how he got things done with a
Democrat congress, "I was taught that it is better to have two-thirds
of a loaf (of bread), than no loaf and leave the table hungry." We
cannot have an attitude of 'it's my way or nothing'.
Debbie Frenzel (4) (7)
Bright Dornblaser (10) (3)
Jim Keller (8) (10)
Fred Zimmerman (8) (5)
Ray Ayotte (10) (8)
Kent Eklund (10) (10)
Bill Frenzel (10) (10)
Question 1: When we had more private org. coop. we did better. As it
has declined, so has MN’s health.
Question 2: My own experience is that without “idea people” the world
is a dreary place, but they usually don’t even manage themselves very
well, much less the affairs of government.
David Hutcheson (8) (8)
Robert A. Freeman (10) (6)
Question 1: Itasca Project is a shining example of how this is
achieved.
Question 2: The governor has the bully pulpit and he or she needs to
bring a vision to the office. At the same time, they need to
collaborate with the legislature to address problems.
Question 3: Would have been great to hear Pettingill and Durenberger's
perspectives on how health reform is progressing in DC and what it
says about presidential leadership.
Ray Schmitz (10) (8)
Missing, not necessarily missing, but I am concerned that the comments
were lacking a certain level of actual experience. While I generally
agree that there has been a lack of open leadership at the state, and
in many local, government bodies I read nothing
that leads me to believe that he had the key to that issue. Actually,
his criticism of the children hospital issue, while he did not clarify
when it happened, that is, on his watch or not, was an example of
private sector paralysis that rivaled the government. His area of
experience is among the most entrenched and hidebound, hospital and
medical practice seems to be to be the problem not a solution to
today's problems. If Mayo has answers, and I think they may have some,
it is not because they have been innovative recently, other than
building an integrated system to funnel customers to the mother ship,
but because the model that was established originally was structured
soundly. Their internal
decision making is draconian in its complexity, the cost savings that
they recently have been doing is only after staff had been suggesting
many of them for years. Back to the issue, a major problem is that the
candidates seem to be coming from the existing failed structure, that
is, the leadership of the house and senate are high on the list, they
are the people who could not make it happen why should we look to them
for new leadership. Some, not many, of the others may have that
capability, the mayors of St. P and Mpls may be the best leaders that
we have in the state.
Bill Hamm (7.5) (9)
Question 1: While I agree with the concept, the trouble comes in
defining which of those two sectors is in the leadership role and why.
What seems obvious is the degree to which the public sector wants to
dominate and manipulate the private sector. The private sector is
clearly and correctly resisting this effort. Remember, cooperation is
a 2 way street that requires respect and recognition of the strengths
and weaknesses of the other party. I don't see that happening yet.
Question 2: Minnesota has had several very good examples of this,
perhaps the last being Arne Carlson. The ability to set ego and
partisanship aside for the greater good rather than setting a strategy
looking only at reelection is very important for someone in our
Governor's office. Someone who can view an obstacle in there path as a
challenge to be overcome or an opportunity to create dialog will serve
us much better than those committed to fighting at every opportunity
over partisan ideals.
The connection between the issues raised above and the federal
takeover of education. Without Minnesota taking back control of our
education system we will correctly see increasing resistance of the
private sector to being manipulated and controlled by the ever public
sector. Yes we can occasionally turn back the clock and yes we must
return to our founding principles of less governmental control based
on demonstrated need rather than Socialist ideals.
Joe Nathan
It's interesting to hear and read the push for political leaders who
can be compromisers. Many of the finest leaders helped us make
progress because they fought for good ideas and did not compromise. A
few examples:
1. Rudy Perpich, who fought hard for Post-Secondary Enrollment Options
and open enrollment. This took enormous courage. But if he had not
pushed so hard for these programs, they would not have happened.
2. Connie Levi - She had a huge role in Post Secondary Enrollment
Options being adopted. She was pushed hard to compromise, but didn't.
The team of Perpich and Levi was a historic one - and more than
100,000 kids have participated in PSEO, and really gained from it (we
have research on this).
3. Hubert Humphrey - pushed hard while mayor for major improvements in
civil rights (including his speech at the national Democratic party).
4. George Latimer & district heating in St. Paul. There was a lot of
heat (sorry) generated by this idea but it proved to be very good, and
far ahead of its time. Latimer did not compromise, and history proved
him right.
I'm concerned that in our push for "compromise", very good ideas will
be significantly altered and never given a real chance because it
appears there is so much support for compromise.
Sometimes the wise leader pushes hard for an idea, sometime she/he
must compromise. But if we make compromising the only wise approach, I
think we will have neglected to fully describe effective leaders.
David Broden (8) (5)
Question 1: I agree that more cooperation or real verified cooperation
is a must. The question I ask is --isn't this cooperation happening
and yet the results are unclear. Perhaps a better question is to make
the cooperation and coordination more relevant and results oriented to
make some real things happen and not end in discussion only. Bottom
Line is it the lack of cooperation or is it the topic and how the
topic is addressed. I would argue it may be the latter suggesting the
process is very broken but the resources remain available in some
degree.
Question 2: The ideas must come from across the board --no one person
or group should be viewed as having the only and complete solution.
The governor of the campaign in 2010 and the elected individual must
accept others ideas as well as promoting his own agenda. Achieving
this approach on a bipartisan basis must be the key. This will require
state political parties to be lead by personnel not clearly visible at
this time.
Terry Stone (8) (3)
Question 1: One must wonder why the partnership between government and
corporate participation has broken down. It’s well known that the 19
Fortune 500 companies that are based in Minnesota do not manufacture
here. That’s a problem.
Minnesota takes longer to provide permits for projects and businesses
than any state in the Midwest. After this spring’s flood of the Red
River, Fargo and Moorhead saw a need for a flood control project.
North Dakota was able to act upon permits within a couple months.
Minnesota is still giving the situation careful consideration.
A company that manufactures in Minnesota, and has a real connection
with working Minnesotans, has a bigger stake than a company with just
an office and executive staff in the core city.
It’s not a stretch to believe that Minnesota government has set up a
hostile relationship with business. Our state alienated business with
incremental policy creep in the form of nanny-state legislation,
over-regulation, obstructionism and tax policy deterioration.
We can’t beat up the businesses of Minnesota and expect them to return
the favor with a policy of full and productive civic engagement. There
is a mentality in the Legislature that seems to think that jobs are
good but the businesses that provide them must be pounded into
submission, taxed, regulated, delayed and restrained. This will need
to change before organizations in the private sector return to their
full productive role in a healthy Minnesota.
Question 2: I am unaware of any metrics for measuring the ability to
broker the ideas of others. We need a man with his own workable ideas.
The brokering of ideas injects a number of variables into governance
that may yield unpredictable and unintended consequences. Just once,
it would be attractive to vote for a man and his ideas and get the man
and the ideas for whom we voted.
Question 3: To understand what happened to Minnesota and how to get it
back, it would be useful to explore the extent to which extraneous
ideas have contaminated Minnesota’s intellectual gene pool and its
elections.
I see a view of the environment-over-people that looks imported from
the United Nations Committee on the Redistribution of Wealth, 1996
Executive Summary. A nonferrous metal mining operation is being held
hostage to environmental interests; right here in Minnesota. Polymet
has been jerked around now for about five years. The Minnesota we all
knew and love wouldn’t allow jobs to be hijacked by l. canadensis and
its confederate crowd of California-class climatic crackpots.
There appears to be a good deal of land-use trends in Minnesota that
are styled from the United Nations Sustainable Development stratagem.
These ideas seem favored by people with little land (Metro folks), but
those with significant tracts of land (rural folks) suffer the
preponderance of their impact. There is a lot of partial regulatory
takings going on in Minnesota for which the land owners are never
reimbursed.
It appears that in the past, city folks and country folks each had a
role to play and respected each other’s unique contributions to
Minnesota. Now it seems that the city folks, having paved over their
seven-county area of native prairie grasses, now want to instruct the
country folks on the fine points of environmental management.
When 3.5 million people feel the need to live within an asphalt mile
of each other, certain environmental and social strains occur.
Traditionally, the city folks have taken care of their over-sized
problems of pollution, transportation and crime themselves. These
days, the city folks have their hands out to the federal and state
governments to support their colorful fantasies of subsidized
transportation and social policies. So the country folks are asked to
revisit the glory days of the trolley car--- but this time on their
dime.
This Metro-rural dichotomy increasingly stresses the social fabric of
Minnesota in ways not seen in the past.
The most reasonable solution is probably to move some borders around
giving Rochester, the Metro Area (and it must include St. Cloud) and
Duluth to Wisconsin. The rest of Minnesota would then be free to join
North Dakota with which it shares a frugal respect for governance
principles, an enthusiasm for business, a reverence for the rural
lifestyle and the rugged individualism with which we formerly
prospered.
A bonus will be the salvation of Lake of the Woods County that now has
less than the 4,000 people required to be a county under Minnesota
law.
Peter Hennessey (0) (0)
Question 1: It all depends on what the meaning of "cooperation" is.
Industry hacks populating oversight / regulatory bodies? "Deals"
showered on politicians after they leave office? Laws being written to
benefit the "connected" and punish their competitors?
Question 2: Leadership is NOT being the source of new ideas. It is NOT
being a policy wonk. Leadership is the ability to attract, inspire and
motivate the people with the right ideas. It is the ability to set a
tone of moral clarity so people will understand which are the right
and wrong ideas, and why. It is the ability to articulate principles,
rather than just mouth slogans and banalities.
Question 3: They did not address the problem of the politics of
personal destruction, which has the dual purpose of eliminating
political opposition and scaring off promising new candidates.
They did not address the problem of false dichotomies and deliberately
blurred choices -- except inadvertently, by giving a few examples.
They did not address how wrong ideas are causing all the problems --
except inadvertently, by speaking approvingly of several of them.
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